What is the Current SS 4.0 relase date?

[richiep]

Hi,
I'm curious what the current relaase date for SS 4.0 is.

Thanks
Rich

[TurnkeyAdmin]

We had tenatively set the date for July 31st for the beta version, but because of unforeseen events, the date has been pushed back a few of weeks. If you are a current customer, you will be notified via a newsletter. Check the SS 4.0 page later today for more information. You can access it from the front page.

[DianeV]

Okay, but that release date is for the beta release -- correct?

[TWT-Chris]

That is correct

[DianeV]

Here it is, with screenshots, too (http://www.turnkeywebtools.com/products.php?p=ss-shopping-cart-software&s=new):

"Our tentative release date for initial Beta is currently Aug 18, 2006. At that point we will rely on feedback from external and internal Beta testers to locate and resolve any issues and finish off the new feature list before making 4.0 final."

Looks great. Can't wait. :)

[DianeV]

Whoa. Dig it -- they've included the title tag too:

http://www.turnkeywebtools.com/images/ss_screens/admin_product_edit.png

Bravo, Turnkey.

[vegvit]

looks great,
thanks TWT for listening to user suggestions. title tags, nice.

[Spookious]

Oh man, I am sooo stoked now! It looks hot!

[DianeV]

So am I. :)

[tomynate]

Okay... August 18th has come and gone ... what now?

[TWT-Burt]

Everyone keeps asking about the release date of 4.0, take a look at the link provided in regards to the latest news on 4.0

http://www.turnkeywebtools.com/esupport/index.php?_m=news&_a=viewnews&newsid=11

[com1000]

You would think that there would be an update beta release date, but nothing at all in these forums or in the news page.... Turnkey, cant you give us an update, your last post was over 3 weeks ago?

[TWT-Chris]

We know everyone is eagerly awaiting the 4.0 release as are we. Unfortunately as we stated in our last news post we had underestimated the amount of time it has taken to get the software to the state that it was in 3.5 in the rebuild. With that said, we have tried to stay away from releasing dates until we are closer to that point. I can say that we hope to have a better idea at the end of this week or the beginning of next and at that point we will have more info. Thanks to everyone for their patience.

[DianeV]

Okay. I was beginning to wonder what had happened to you guys. I'd tried to call (regarding a SS license that has not yet lapsed) but, after having been on hold for some time, got a recorded message to leave a message so that someone could call back. I did, but no one contacted me. The second time I called (a couple of days later), I was on hold a shorter time and then was abruptly disconnected.

I also got a call from a current customer of yours who similarly could not get through to TWT. She had contracted with TWT to implement her site design into SS; after it was almost done, she was told that the person who was working on it was no longer with TWT. Since then, she's not heard from anyone in response to her calls and emails.

I realize that you're busy, but it simply is not okay not to respond to customers. Ever.

Truthfully, some days I would prefer to sit alone so that I can code and design uninterrupted -- but that's not the best business practice, is it?

[TWT-Chris]

I can assure you that we always call customers back. In your case however I believe you may have caught some of the phone problems we were having a few weeks ago that were resolved with a phone system upgrade. I can assure you we are not avoiding anyone.

As far as your customer goes, I believe I know who you are spealking of. In fact we did finish the integration and were waiting on a response from her as far as feeback went. You can have a look at her site yourself and note we did in fact complete it. During that wait, maybe a week or more, the person working on it did in fact leave the company. She was then redirected to another developer who was waiting on a call from her and since then we have heard nothing. So that is where we are with that.

[DianeV]

Alright; explanation accepted (although my two phone calls were last Friday and Monday).

As to the customer who contacted me, I'll let her know of your response so that she can contact you. From what I understood, she was not aware of the new developer assigned to her, so I'm sure she'll be happy about that!

Thanks again.

[SunShopper]

I know we’re all anxiously awaiting SS 4.0 but I don’t mind a short extension if that means we can expect to get all of the meaningful functionality we’re all hoping for. I among others have been making a big stink about Meta Tags (Title, Description and Keywords) for the Category AND Subcategory pages as well as the ability to assign a subcategory to multiple other categories. Since the short extension is turning into two months, I will be thoroughly disappointed if these two features aren’t included in 4.0.

[Killer Commerce]

I wholeheartedly agree SunShopper! We’ve come this far – we may as well finish what we’ve started.

[tomynate]

Okay. It has been a month since there was anything posted to the news about 4.0.

[Spookious]

^ It's been about 10 days... posted 9-5-2006...


We know everyone is eagerly awaiting the 4.0 release as are we. Unfortunately as we stated in our last news post we had underestimated the amount of time it has taken to get the software to the state that it was in 3.5 in the rebuild. With that said, we have tried to stay away from releasing dates until we are closer to that point. I can say that we hope to have a better idea at the end of this week or the beginning of next and at that point we will have more info. Thanks to everyone for their patience.But yeah, they're a bit late on the update of the update. :D

[DianeV]

True -- and my thought is that the upcoming "release" of Sunshop 4 will be the release of the beta, not the finalized version. That's something to keep in mind if you're doing mission-critical installations.

[tomynate]

Thanks. I guess I missed that one.

[TWT-Chris]

We are still here :P

Ok here is the latest we have put together after monitoring our status over the last week or so. We will post this on the news later this week as a new tentative release for beta but here is what we are shooting for. Keep in mind this is more likely take in terms of give or take. Meaning we are shooting for an earlier beta release but keeping a nice padding for our sake.

Now we know we originally said early August but like we said before things got more complex then originally planned. So right now we are a month an a half behind on the beta release. We hope to not make that any more then 2 and 1/2 at this point. So we will have a new date in the news soon. :)

Thanks again to everyone for their patience.

[vegvit]

so that means we are a month away from the beta, add two weeks at least for testing, min 1.5 months. Now that's some good news :eek:

[tevih]

If i get this right, beta is going to be aimed to be released October 15ish?

If I get a beta, is an upgrade to the final free...?

I liked v3.5, though I had some issues with it. I was happy to hear about a v4.0 but it seems like it's taking forever. Not to rush you, as I that will produce garbage software, but I'm in need of another cart right now... :)

[Fight]

Ok TWT.... this is just bad business. Broken promise after broken promise. "SS 4 will be delayed a little bit"..."We will post an update later this week". The list goes on. No date has even been set. It seems many people here are fine with hollow words on a forum in place of dependable news.

Fact is, any problems you are experiencing are your problem. That is why we pay for your software. Anyone who has developed enterprise level solutions knows unexpected problems ALWAYS arise. The difference between successful and unsuccessful software companies is the ability to suck it up and make deadlines. Anyone who cares one bit about his or her customers cannot depend on TWT. You simply don't deliver. You are the single worst operation I have dealt with in any frame of internet business.

I had to speak out because it seems this forum is rich in unwavering supporters that are not speaking for the neglected masses that represent your average customer. Take a bold move and compensate for your woeful effort...

[TWT-Chris]

Fight, we appreciate you feedback but it looks like you are new around these parts. Our customers know from the past that the extra waits are always worth it in the end and that is why they are so confident in what we do and say. I am sorry that you belive that a 1.5 month delay is unacceptable but I can tell you from experience that compared to other applications out there that 1.5 months is nothing.

As an example, we use a very well known billing software for web hosting and I can tell you that they are about 10 months behind and counting on their new version. Although we are upset that it has taken so long, I can assure you that we understand that programming is not an exact science and that delays are always expected.

[Fingerstyle]

Just make sure you fit in the two things SunShopper has been asking for and I’ll be OK with a little more time…

1. Meta Tags (Title, Description and Keywords) for the Category AND Subcategory pages!
2. The ability to assign a subcategory to multiple other categories. Ie. Aromatherapy candles should be allowed to show up under a Main Category of “Candles” and “Aromatherapy”. OK that’s a crappy example…I don’t even sell candles but you get the idea!

P.S.

Fight,

I know it’s taking more time then we all have expected but I have used Turnkey to do custom programming for me in the past and they have always delivered more then the scope of the project called for. I fully expect it on 4.0 as well!

TWT-Chris,

OK I just went to bat for ya! Make us proud!!!

[tevih]

2. The ability to assign a subcategory to multiple other categories. Ie. Aromatherapy candles should be allowed to show up under a Main Category of “Candles” and “Aromatherapy”. OK that’s a crappy example…I don’t even sell candles but you get the idea!

I hav to second that - this is very important to me. Unlimited multiple categories - let's say I do jewelry, I'dlike to be able to list a white gold, diamond and sapphire ring in 5 categories: 1. white gold 2. diamonds 3. sapphire 4. birthstones 5. rings - as an example. It would make finding things so much easier for people, so they can browse rather than search, if they choose.

[Spookious]

New... um, news, posted today - Wednesday, October 4, 2006 (http://www.turnkeywebtools.com/esupport/?_m=news&_a=viewnews&newsid=13)

[markblair]

With all that said we want to thank each and everyone of you for your continued patience and be sure to check your email today for an extra special gift for your continued support. We know you won't be disappointed with the final product and we cannot wait to release it to you It would be nice if that "extra special gift" was a discount on a renewal license instead of having to buy a whole new license. Some of us don't need multiple licenses and we really aren't getting a "gift" unless we do. Just my two cents on the issue.

[TWT-Chris]

Just wanted to correct Fluid PC on the date... that was posted on the 4th.

[Spookious]

Just wanted to correct Fluid PC on the date... that was posted on the 4th.Bloops! Fixed. :)

[SunShopper]

1. Meta Tags (Title, Description and Keywords) for the Category AND Subcategory pages!
2. The ability to assign a subcategory to multiple other categories. Ie. Aromatherapy candles should be allowed to show up under a Main Category of “Candles” and “Aromatherapy”. OK that’s a crappy example…I don’t even sell candles but you get the idea!


I have to second that - this is very important to me. Unlimited multiple categories - let's say I do jewelry, I'dlike to be able to list a white gold, diamond and sapphire ring in 5 categories: 1. white gold 2. diamonds 3. sapphire 4. birthstones 5. rings - as an example. It would make finding things so much easier for people, so they can browse rather than search, if they choose.

Yes – these are extremely important features that would make SunShop stand out from the competition. There have been plenty of people asking for this long before the completion deadlines were in place so we’re all really hoping it makes it to 4.0. This is one of those features that will benefit everyone!

[vegvit]

IS beta getting out today as it was promised? more delays? please update.

[craigw]

October 30th has come and gone and not a word has come from the management in the forums or by e-mail as to the status of the release date of SunShop 4.0 beta. Our customers are asking us, and it looks less than professional to not have a status report for them. Please let your loyal customers know what is going on. Is it going to be a couple more days, a couple more weeks or what? I find people are pretty forgiving when you communicate with them. But when dates are announced and they come and go with no communication, that is what irriates people. Please advise on the current planned release date. Thank you!

Craig Winters, President
Full Spectrum Internet & E-Commerce Services
www.fullspectrumweb.com

[TWT-Chris]

Please read the latest news...

http://www.turnkeywebtools.com/esupport/index.php?_m=news&_a=viewnews&newsid=14

[TWT-Chris]

Update News!

The admin demo will be up by the end of the day today. Keep an eye on the following URL later today and the news for more info.

http://ss4.twtdev.com/admin/

[Spookious]

I'm guessing this is going to be PST time - because it's nearly midnight EST and still getting the 404. :rolleyes: :(

[markblair]

I am also still receiving the 404 error and it's just past 1:00am ET here.

[TWT-Chris]

http://ss4.twtdev.com/admin/

username: testadmin
password: testadmin

Settings have been disabled until we can secure a few things for demo purposes. Please post your feedback as well.

[SunShopper]

Cheers :D

1. After taking a run through the new 4.0 admin I see we are going to get to enter our own Title, Keyword and Description tags for the Product, Category and Subcategory pages. This is AWESOME and I have never seen another cart offer this. Good work guys!!!

2. It also appears we will be able to assign Subcategories to multiple main categories. To do this you will simply have to add the Subcategory under each Category of your choice. Then, when you add your products, be sure to assign them to each of those categories. This is another awesome feature that no other cart out there offers.

Jeers :(

1. The Froogle feed is still not using the lowest price. We have three available pricing fields. They are: Retail Price, Your Price and Sale Price. The Froogle Feed seems to always use the “Your Price” field even if the “Sale Price” is the lowest. Myself as well as others in this forum have requested that the Froogle Feed always pull the lowest price! After all, what would be the point of selling something for $10.00 but advertising that it costs $20.00? We need all the help we can get competing on Froogle. Please change this so it puts our best foot forward.

2. Little confused on assigning a product to multiple categories. When setting up a product, you first have to assign it to a Category on the Edit Product page but you can only select one category there (the HOLD + CTRL function does not work in this field). You then have to click the “Categories tab” where you repeat this procedure using the HOLD + CTRL function to select multiple categories. Why don’t you get rid of the categories tab and allow us to simply use the CTRL + HOLD function on the Edit Product page when selecting the categories? Hey, as long as I can assign a single product to multiple categories then I’ll be fine but this seemed a bit repetitive and unnecessary.

[DianeV]

It's pretty speedy, and I can see the titles and metas for products AND categories, an (animated!) graph for daily sales ... pretty darned nice.

Anyway, thanks to the TWT guys for this. I know we have wanted and waited for version 4 for ages, that a lot has been added or changed in this new version, and that we have not always been, well, calm about it. <lol> However, I'd say that that's something of an indication of customer desire for the product.

At any rate, I am not sure that I have ever, in all my years on the Web, said "woohoo" anywhere. So, there. :)

Anyway, I'll post whatever else I see as and when I see it.

[flyingwil]

:eek: Sweet! I can not wait for it to be out! When is the release?

One thing I noticed and was hoping for was the following:

For my company I have some products that I can not sell to Californa residents and therefor can not ship them to Cali. I know of several products (small engines, gas cans, ect...) that can not be sold to Cali customers, if the shop was automated to remove such items from the carts of Cali customers it would be great!

Thanks,
Wil

[Killer Commerce]

We barked and barked about the Meta Tags and you guys delivered…Woo Hoo!

You gave us the ability to add a subcategory to multiple main categories…nice!!!

But SunShopper does make a good point. I don’t know why the Froogle Feed doesn’t use our lowest price. I also didn’t understand why (when adding a product) we have to assign the category in two different areas. Seems like an additional and unnecessary step that will cause much frustration.

Please advise – Thanks!

[TWT-Chris]

No worries, the froogle feed is being reworked to google base before final release.

[TWT-Chris]

Hey guys... we do have some updates on the admin demo which we will be putting up later tonight. We are happy to say the admin area is pretty much complete minus the stats which will be completed during beta testing.

A few things to note when you see it:

1. We reworked the froogle feed and converted it to the new google base.
2. You can now setup separate shipping tables for each country, state or province..
3. You should notice google checkout is now in the list of payment modules. Stay tuned for PayPal Pro. :)

[DianeV]

Wow. As much as we have all wanted a huge list of improvements yesterday, I have to say that you guys rock. Another thing I've never said online. :)

[miloheckport]

Good to see some of the functionality enabled in the admin demo. A few things I have noticed and am concerned with are


Shipping Modules and Shipping Table - I thought there was going to be an option to use both the Shipping Table and Real Time Shipping Modules. I was hoping to be able to offer our Shipping Table rates and giving the customer the option of upgrading the shipping to say FedEx Next Day Shipping. This is not currently possible and I thought that this version was going to address this issue. Was really looking forward to this as many other carts offer these types of shipping options.
Shipping Name being split into First and Last Name Fields - This is the way it should be, but how are you going to port existing data into the new format?
Google Checkout & PayPal Pro - Kudos stoked on this. How difficult would it be to provide a Yahoo Shopping Feed. I always have to generate this myself and it would save those that subscribe to Yahoo Shopping a lot of time.


So it looks like SunShop 4.0 will be a 2007 Gold release.

[com1000]

I dont even see an area for export to Quickbooks ... I notice you have mentioned that the admin is done except for the reports... so wheres the quickbooks export? Did incremental or partial html page generation make the final cut???

[TWT-Chris]

Quickbooks exporting is now done externally via a windows application. We are taking full advantage of the Quickbooks SDK this time around instead of dealing with the iif format that is depreciated.

[vegvit]

From the admin panel I cannot see any substantial improvements to the shipping module. No expedetied shipping option, no advanced shipment calculation like it was suggested by other people and myself. may be I am missing something?

I see some improvements on other modules but I think time is well spent to point out those things that were going to be added but not.

[flyingwil]

Ummm yeah...

So when is it going to be released!?

[com1000]

Is this desktop application going to be provided by you directly? I have tried other software that maps tables into Quickbooks, with little success

[miloheckport]

No expedetied shipping option, no advanced shipment calculation like it was suggested by other people and myself. may be I am missing something?

I see some improvements on other modules but I think time is well spent to point out those things that were going to be added but not.

It looks like this is not going to happen

[TWT-Chris]

New Update:

http://www.turnkeywebtools.com/esupport/index.php?_m=news&_a=viewnews&newsid=16

[Spookious]

Hohoho, snazzy! Thank you for the update. :) ;)

[tomynate]

Looks like it will be worth the wait. I like everything I see so far. The admin is tremendously improved. I really like the ability for the client to get into his account from the home page. The search engine seems to be much improved. :)

[com1000]

I still dont see the beta in my ASP admin area, am I missing something?

[TWT-Chris]

Actually looks like we forgot to add it into the ASP area. We will take care of this tonight.

[miloheckport]

One thing that I have noticed is that when you resize the window in IE6 the beta layout completely falls apart.

[com1000]

great, so we were supposed to get it first..... and.... ah...I will look for it thanks... and how about the desktop QB tool?

[vegvit]

does TWT have a date for the final 4.0? I know we have access to the BETA but can you tell us when we can download the 4.0 final?

[paperlion]

I realize that those with pre-release version licenses of 4.0 also have use of earlier versions as full licenses, but..

1 - this is not really why v. 4.0 licenses were purchased
2 - the lack of transparency regarding the release date is both frustrating and discomforting. In the most recent News post - now almost two months old, you mentioned your determination to post updates on 4.0 every week. If there are issues with the release, this is bad enough -- although most of us would probably prefer to sit it out than have an inferior product -- but a lack of communication is unnecessary and frankly, bad business.

I heard good things about this company from several programmer types and others around different boards, and expect an above-board relationship with companies I work with -- this is easy enough for you to provide, so why you don't is only cause for concern.

Am obviously also waiting for management's reply here.

[TWT-Chris]

Perhaps you missed the news release from last Tuesday? There were also updates from a few weeks before that in the news area as well so I am not sure where you are getting your 2 months time line from. At any rate, as we stated Beta 2 is scheduled for Tuesday AM.

[paperlion]

I'm glad to be wrong about this.

I just looked in the Announcement section of the forum again, where it says news about products are posted and got this response:

There have been no posts in the last 30 days in this forum.

I am also subscribed to the 4.0 email list and haven't gotten anything there.

Can you post the links. I would really like to follow the release. I have a client that needs features promised in 4.0, etc. and will need to know soon whether I can use 4.0 as the shop.

thanks

[TWT-Chris]

News items are posted at http://www.turnkeywebtools.com/esupport/index.php?_m=news&_a=view

[DianeV]

So that would be outside of the forums:

http://turnkeywebtools.com
> Support > Help Desk > panel on the right

... rather than in the Announcements forum of the TWT forums.

[vegvit]

so end of Jan is still looking Ok for 4.0 final? as the announcement says

[TWT-Chris]

Yes, or the "News" link off our main site.

[Kraken]

No worries, the froogle feed is being reworked to google base before final release.

That is encouraging, but it hasn't been mentioned since November. Last week I received this email from google:


As you know, we're always looking for new ways to improve our product search experience, both for our users and for content providers. We've found that one of the most effective ways to help users conduct faster and more effective searches is to describe products with relevant attributes - ideally those assigned by the people who best understand their own products, meaning you.

That's why we're asking all Froogle merchants to send us bulk uploads in the Google Base format, with five additional attributes (along with the basic ones you've submitted in the past). Because we think it's important to provide a consistent user experience, we will no longer list items that don't meet a minimal number of attributes by the end of February 2007.

For further explanation please visit our FAQ section

You can review this attribute requirement page to learn about these new guidelines for general product attributes and specific attributes per product type. You can also learn how to submit your feed using Google Base here. We recommend that you include as many attributes as possible; the more information you provide, the better chance you'll have of matching users' "refinement" queries.

Are you guys on top of this new attribute requirement? I'm about to lose my google base listing due to noncompliance with their requirements. I'm just hoping for some reassurance that we can jump right back into "froogle" when we get SS4 going. TIA for your reply!

[TWT-Chris]

If you will notice in the 4.0 Beta releases that there is a "Google Base" export on the products menu. So it was already completed in the first Beta release.

[Kraken]

Great, glad to hear it. Their email sounded like the 5 extra product attributes are something brand new. It's a relief that you guys already knew about it.

[TWT-Chris]

Latest News:

SunShop 4.0 Beta 5 is now available in the client area:

1. Sitemap has been added as requested by many.

2. The generate HTML feature is complete and we are happy to say about 10 times faster then the old version.

3. Volume pricing and extended pricing are now completely functional. You can also now setup buy one get one with discounts.

4. Other small bug fixes.

5. Beta 6 will include a 3.5.1 upgrade... yay!

[DianeV]

Sounds fantastic, Chris. What a lot of work that must have been.

[vegvit]

thanks chris,

can we actually see the html store in action? what is the link?

I could not see how you can do the "buy 1 get 1" discount even though you mentioned that it is now doable. May be I am missing something.

[SunShopper]

Diggin’ the Site Map!

Not only do we now have a Site Map, but TWT also made templates for it and it will use dynamic or HTML links depending on your shop settings.

I also love the HTML page generation feature. We now can incorporate the name of the categories and manufacturers into the URL for maximum SEO.

My only question is, do we have to put the HTML pages in a folder called “catalog”? Will we have any control over the name of this directory?

Either way…I love it!!!!!!!!

[SunShopper]

can we actually see the html store in action? what is the link?

Hey Vegvit!

I don't know when/if TWT will give us a direct link but why wait?! Just go to the admin (http://demos.turnkeywebtools.com/ss4/admin/) and change the Shop Settings from Dynamic to Static. Then go to the cart at http://demos.turnkeywebtools.com/ss4/

Even the Site Map converts to the HTML pages. Super cool!

[vegvit]

SITEMAP SUPERB , THANKS TWT. This really helps. However will we have a google sitemap? which goes to product level, and helps greatly with rankings. I think the same format is good for Yahoo so it is not specific for google only. Any updates?


One other note, it looks like Search engine crawling problem that I mentioned in a different thread is no longer a problem. I did a test on sunshop demo website and there is no loop at all. GREAT. Search engines will not go crazy trying to crawl our sites anymore and our bandwith usage will drop dramatically, you will see. Google will not automatically think we are spamming it so hopefully less of the supplemental results.

[Kraken]

Where is the sitemap generator? I'm not seeing it.

[vegvit]

Where is the sitemap generator? I'm not seeing it.

it is not a google sitemap generator (I wish it was) , you can see the link to Sitemap on the left menu.

[Kraken]

it is not a google sitemap generator (I wish it was) , you can see the link to Sitemap on the left menu.


Creating a sitemap has been on my to-do list for ages. I'd be very happy if the new SS will do it for me. I still don't see a Sitemap link at this url: http://demos.turnkeywebtools.com/ss4/admin/ . Is there a more up to date demo page that I'm not finding?

[TWT-Chris]

You don't need to generate the sitemap as it is done automatically when the page is visited. You can edit the template to change the look of it, but other then that, its automatically generated.

[DianeV]

Chris, I didn't understand that.

A pages has to be visited before the site map is created or the page link is added to the site map?

[TWT-Chris]

What I meant was it is generated on the fly... like the pages in regular php mode.

[DianeV]

Ah, okay. Thanks.

[anna]

Is there possibility to have RSS news feeder built into the shop? That would be really great :D

[TWT-Chris]

That is already something we are considering but you probably wont see it until 4.1.

[thedude]

It's great to see that 4.0 is close to actually stable and usable. The sad thing is that I purchased a license a year ago in anticipation of 4.0 and it is now expired. And I have to renew to finally use the new version once it is ready. You guys should consider giving another year of support to users that bought licenses this time last year, since all we have been doing is waiting.

[allhandl]

what is status of beta 6? I thought that was to be launched last week?

[TWT-Chris]

Please read the news... a update was posted yesterday.

[Pooch]

I'm sure nothing is certain, but is there any estimate when RC1 will be released? I'd like to start populating the database with products ASAP, so when the final is released, all I have to do is setup the easier stuff. Stop me if that's not a good idea though. I figure anything I add in the product section wouldn't be effected by any last minute changes in the final release?:confused: I'm kind of in a rush to get my new site online, and the product data is the most tedious of course.

[TWT-Chris]

Pooch, you should be fine starting to add products now. We are still on track for the RC release it seems unless something unexpected comes up.

[Pooch]

TWT-Chris,

Ok, so with Beta 6, I can add all my products and by the final release, my data shall stay intact?

Do you think there will be a price increase with 4.0?

Thanks!!

[TWT-Chris]

1. Yes, the data will not change and will be intact.

2. I know for a fact the price will be increasing and we have sent a few newsletters out on the subject. The new price will be $249.99.

[Pooch]

If I buy today, can I lock in at the $189 price?

[TWT-Chris]

Yes, for any licenses you buy today and before the RC release you will be locked in for those licenses.

[Pooch]

Thanks Chris!! You'll see my order shortly.

[Pooch]

TWT -

I purchased the SunShop license. I don't have Zend Optimizer, so it's between IonCube and Source Guardian. It was recommended to install IonCube over SQ, however, IonCube is not available for the Beta 4.0. Do you still have plans to release 4.0 in IonCube, and if so, will it be soon?:confused:

[TWT-Chris]

Yes, we are just having issues with the encoding. You can easily use the source guardian for now and switch to it once available.

[tarabyte]

Hello Chris,

Are there any major "gotchas" to be aware of for using beta 6 in an production environment?

I did notice that Issue #78 had not yet been completed...while not a huge deal at this point, is there somewhere that I can find out what might be missing or broken?

It seemed like version 4.0 is pretty close to a final release, so I didn't want to invest a lot of time/energy on building a brand new site around 3.51 when 4.0 seems so much better.

Thanks,
Tara

[Furiant]

I work with developers a lot so I understand the perils of setting release dates before they can be solidified, but I find that generally there is some idea of when the product will be ready. I've never met a project manager who couldn't give at least a 30-day range when in the final beta phases.

I am really liking what I see in version 4 and would very much like to tell my client to wait for it, but with no timeframe whatsoever I can't really do that. If you could just give me a "within a month" or "not for another 6 months" kind of estimate, it would be a big help. Otherwise I have to assume it won't be within our schedule and I'll need to find another cart.

Thanks.

[Dquinn5735]

I received the notice yesterday about the RC release of Sunshop v4.0. The announcement mentions an Upgrade Checklist if your upgrading from v3.5.1 to v4.0. Where is the document located? I didn't see it in the client area or the v4.0 area on the website.

I would like to start to prepare for what will need to be done to upgrade my client's cart.

Thanks,

Diana Quinn

[TWT-Chris]

Its not actually a checklist, its a warning in the upgrade script that you will see when you run the upgrade.

[flyingwil]

Will v4 solve the Google Analytics issue?